For free download, HERE.

These are two separate conversations conducted by Daniel Fetzner in Cairo (me) and Daniel Fetzner & Martin Dornberg in Karlsruhe (Latour), on the subject of waste.

It was a fascinating experience for me because somehow, at the very end of my 16 years in Cairo, I had not yet visited the Muqattam Hills garbage city where all of Cairo’s rubbish is sorted and (in most cases) recycled. Fetzner wanted to interview me on video at one of the garbage-sorting facilities, and despite the overpowering heat of the day, it was well worth the trouble to see how efficient they are about cleaning and sorting everything.

ADDENDUM: I forgot to mention that a video version of the conversation can be seen HERE.