“All of life is in rebellion against the foreclosure of consciousness that is modernity”.
At times a dense and involved interview, this exchange between Alexander Reid Ross and Notes Towards an International Eco-socialism ranges over broad topics and geopolitical specifics. In particular the exchange discusses the South American socialist populisms and their relations to land and indigenous peoples, anarchism (European and otherwise), the Middle East and the global incarceral regime. While the topics are ranging, and references to other thinkers seem to do a lot of the arguing on the interlocutors behalf, what is stressed time and again throughout the dialogue is the need for involvement, the development of communities, skills, and infrastructures, and the the the strategic use of pragmatism in order to work towards an authentic ecopolitical revolution.
[This is part II of an interview on Grabbing Back: Essays Against the Global Land Grab (AK Press, 2014). Read part I here.]
In the interviews you hold with Chomsky and Hardt in Grabbing Back, both thinkers point out the irony whereby the so-called “socialist” governments that have been elected throughout much of Latin America in recent years—Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, and Uruguay, for example—notoriously have in fact been engaged in a significant intensification of the extractivist trends which their neoliberal precedecessors oversaw. This developmentalism has inexorably brought these “Pink Tide” governments into conflict with indigenous peoples, and it certainly has not been auspicious for nature, however much posturing Rafael Correa and Evo Morales like to advance in terms of the “rights of nature.” The fate of Ecuador’s Yasuní National Park is emblematic in this sense. As editor of Upside-down World, Grabbing Backcontributor Benjamin Dangl…
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