@ about 54 mins in his take on the human drive to exterminate the sublime
see also http://www.scapegoatjournal.org/docs/09/Marcus%20BOON,%20On%20the%20Bowerbird,%20The%20Difunta%20Correa%20and%20Some%20Architectures%20of%20Sense,%20An%20Interview%20with%20Alphonso%20Lingis.pdf